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Do the relays work in simulation?

They do not work for me. Anybody made them work?

Please post an example circuit.

No circuit: no help.

Anyway, what's the problem?

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are the relays in the sim 12v? cause im using 5v. yea my relays dont switch the signal right up to them is fin but no switching https://www.circuitlab.com/circuit/7dgz7t/ball-counter/

btw im a noob so point out any problems besides as well

This is a very simple circuit to show my problem.

(In a DC analysis) If SW1 is open, NODE2 should not be 24V, but it is. If SW1 is close, NODE1 should not be 24V, but it is.

same thing im running into

in the above circuit using time domain... it says there is voltage on both node at the same time. physically impossible with a single spdt ralay

relay*

". it says there is voltage on both node at the same time. physically impossible with a single spdt relay"

No it isn't.

If you have no load resistance then there's no current through the relay contacts therefore there's no voltage drop across them irrespective of whether they're open or closed.

Put resistances from relay contacts to ground or to some other node and everything works fine.

In other words, there must be a load on any relay contact that you wish to plot.

A quick test: make R1 and/or R2 = 1T (1e12 Ohms) and you'll see the voltage swing reduces to 6V (i.e. vcc/2).

(Actually, I've just edited my demo to show this.)

This proves that there is a "parasitic" resistance in parallel with the relay contacts which sets their open circuit resistance at 1T.

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"A quick test: make R1 and/or R2 = 1T (1e12 Ohms) and you'll see the voltage swing reduces to 6V (i.e. vcc/2).

(Actually, I've just edited my demo to show this.)

This proves that there is a "parasitic" resistance in parallel with the relay contacts which sets their open circuit resistance at 1T."

That should be 1000T (1e15 Ohms)

OK, but I’ll call it a bug. Not practical. Not real.

Maybe something for the ivory tower.

Please CL, don’t strive to be the 23rd copycat ...

Regards, Sancho